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Andy Alkaline
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SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/15/05 at 13:13:29 GMT |
Thought you'd like to know, I can't get your feed working Thunderbird. It works fine as a live bookmark in Firefox though. When i try to add it to Thunderbird, it hangs up on "validating feed." I've been able to add 3 other feeds okay. I've been able add mine, which was originally generated by WebApp. I checked your feed at http://feedvalidator.org/ and it checks out okay. I suppose it must be a bug in Thunderbird. Even if there was something wrong with your feed, Thunderbird should time out sooner. I didn't time it though.. over a minute, so I cancelled. Tried 3 times.
Now this is the Linux version, maybe someone could try it in the Windows version.
Here's the feed url I was trying:
http://www.sitelibrary.net/portal/webapp.xml
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/15/05 at 19:33:15 GMT |
i think my syndicate thingy is becoming an rss feed... but i might hit it with a hammer...
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Jos
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/15/05 at 19:49:28 GMT |
jfk wrote:
i think my syndicate thingy is becoming an rss feed... but i might hit it with a hammer...
I love that thingy. Is it a secret code you are using for that?
Great concept.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/16/05 at 09:44:39 GMT |
Andy, if you use the new upgraded newsfeed subs for your site, your news will show the articles along with the titles. I'm not quite done with it though... hoping to finish out a final version of it tonight with all the encoding complications ironed out of it. That's once I find the answer to all these technological riddles.
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Andy Alkaline
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/16/05 at 09:53:32 GMT |
Jos wrote:
Andy, if you use the new upgraded newsfeed subs for your site, your news will show the articles along with the titles. I'm not quite done with it though... hoping to finish out a final version of it tonight with all the encoding complications ironed out of it. That's once I find the answer to all these technological riddles.
I'm not even using the *old*, but I'll take a look and see what you got. We'll talk more once you're finished with it.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/16/05 at 14:24:45 GMT |
Jos wrote:
jfk wrote:
i think my syndicate thingy is becoming an rss feed... but i might hit it with a hammer...
I love that thingy. Is it a secret code you are using for that?
Great concept.
not really secret...:) if u look at bottom of thingy page u will see "credits"
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/16/05 at 14:50:50 GMT |
jfk wrote:
Jos wrote:
I love that thingy. Is it a secret code you are using for that?
Great concept.
not really secret...:) if u look at bottom of thingy page u will see "credits"
Oh, well yes I see it now. I thought I'd remembered you saying something about it being Big Mike's Shoutbox Plugin. But you modified it?
I really like the way it looks on your site and the way it's working.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 02:48:28 GMT |
Andy Alkaline wrote:
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I'm not even using the *old*, but I'll take a look and see what you got. We'll talk more once you're finished with it.
Well if you can use any of the code from this, it would give you a nicer feed -> Super XML
I'm pretty sure the problem with the Thunderbird is from something on this server not serving up the XML the right way. I've tried a few things. Seems it's sporadic, sometimes it will validate W3C and usually not. It's validating consistently through the feedvalidator site, and if I paste the XML in to the W3C validator, it validates perfectly every time. It's just when they try to load it off the server that it gives them some kind of encoding error. Something about bytes per character or something I think.
While trying to find out how to fix this encoding problem, I came upon a conversation amongst several very intelligent men where they spend several days writing long explanations, more or less about what to do about line endings. Nice not to feel so all alone in pursuing such things. 
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 13:42:35 GMT |
Jos wrote:
Andy Alkaline wrote:
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I'm not even using the *old*, but I'll take a look and see what you got. We'll talk more once you're finished with it.
Well if you can use any of the code from this, it would give you a nicer feed -> Super XML
I have absolutely no idea what to do with that.
I read a post on the Magpie forum where someone said they got the descriptions/summaries to display; I'm going to check into that and start reading the MagpieRSS docs to see what else I can do, and how else I can do it.
What server do you run SiteLibrary on? You mentioned speed, and my sister said that since I switched her site from a WIN2k server to a Linux server, she noticed a speed increase. She's got webapp running also, as a matter of fact. http://www.worldblessgod.com/
And she's on dial-up and still noticed a speed difference.
I don't really understand how the server could be an issue regarding Thunderbird reading the xml feed, since the code is the same. Not that I disagree with the conclusion, but rather just saying what I said, is that I don't understand. 
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 14:01:17 GMT |
The server was not serving it up in the proper format. The validators read it byte by byte, too. So there is an encoding issue and a character byte width issue.
Is it still not working?
That code is the WebAPP subs, so if you are running anything like it, then you could just drop it in. Otherwise maybe I can help you work it in with whatever you are using. It gives the descriptions, dates, author, and subject, along with some other information that wasn't there in the old WebAPP sub.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 14:45:33 GMT |
I just tried it, and it flawlessly worked the first time.
Now, one other minor "detail" I encountered. I was in the "forums" area, I clicked my live bookmark orange icon here, there were two of them I could add.
Now this was *before* I added it to Thunderbird....
So.. two feeds, different titles, same headlines. The feed titled, "Forums : Ideas : SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird - SiteLibrary ~ Link Collectors Community"
Gave me the headlines from the home page.
Okay.. I just now tried to replicate it, to find exactly what page I'm on. I don't see a selection of two separate feeds anymore using the orange icon. I clicked on "forums," then "ideas" and then this thread.
Did all that in a separate window obviously.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 14:50:50 GMT |
Scratch part of that...
Regardless of me not finding the page when I had two separate rss feeds, maybe that was my imagination......
While here
sitelibrary.net/community/forum/generalideas/
I clicked on the orange icon, added as Live bookmark, and gave me the feed title, "Forums : Ideas - SiteLibrary ~ Link Collectors Community" but the headlines are from the main page.
Let me know if you have any questions, as I am considered mentally ill by people who want to sell me medications, and am confusing at times, regardless of being tired. j/k
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/17/05 at 22:29:54 GMT |
That's weird, I guess Thunderbird must get the title from the page title. It won't do that on other WebAPP sites unless they have my title maker hack or a similar one built in, but still. I was thinking anyways that the XML icon should be only on the front page. Maybe that's not it though - it might be getting that alternate xml statement up in the page head section. That is the same on every page.
I think we need something different. Header.pl should have something different on every page or just have nothing there except for the front page. It's another thing that's been in the works for awhile.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/18/05 at 03:49:56 GMT |
Jos wrote:
That's weird, I guess Thunderbird must get the title from the page title.
That was in Firefox.
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Re: SiteLibrary Community RSS Feed and Thunderbird
Posted on 10/18/05 at 03:54:34 GMT |
Jos wrote:
That code is the WebAPP subs, so if you are running anything like it, then you could just drop it in. Otherwise maybe I can help you work it in with whatever you are using.
No, it's not really anything like webapp. I just use template-type stuff. But still using that code I showed you. I'll zip up the 3 or 4 files I use and send them your way sometime; I'll wait until things have died down for you, work-wise.
As far as helping me, don't worry about it right now. I'm too tired to work on much at the moment. I'll keep your offer in mind for the future, and thank you.
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