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Magnolia
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Posted on 08/20/05 at 03:00:38 GMT |
I've looked through submission guidelines and can't find anything written about blogs. I don't consider a blog a website so unsure if it belongs in mainstream Directory?? Is there a section on blogs?
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Norbert
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 03:06:54 GMT |
http://www.sitelibrary.net/Directory/Internet/Weblogs/
Interesting statement about not being a Web site. How do you define a Web site ?
Just wondering.
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"A weblog, or *blog, is a frequently updated website consisting of dated entries arranged in reverse chronological order so the most recent post appears first ..."
(Dr Jill Walker, Dept of Humanistic Informatics, University of Bergen for the Routledge Encyclopedia of Narrative Theory)
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Magnolia
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 03:31:12 GMT |
lol....goodness hard to argue when such a noted authority provides a definition! I think of a website as a page on the Web and a blog as a running commentary. Typically one sells and the other informs although I also realize they both overlap. Since there are directories dedicated to listing only blogs, and I've never seen a blog listed in the DMOZ (as a point of reference) I thought I'd ask.
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Jos
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 03:45:12 GMT |
Blogs are the big thing nowadays, so they get their own special category 
Also then we can keep an eye on them better. A lot of them do tend to be transient, but some are nice.
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CrystalZ
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 04:06:11 GMT |
And thanks for bringing this topic up! I will be sure to add a special section to the guidelines on it.
*Sidenote: any other topics you feel should be covered in the guide just send me an IM asking for it*
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Norbert
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 09:13:53 GMT |
dmoz lists them in cats below
http://dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Weblogs/
"A weblog (blog) is a cross between an online journal and an ezine. Weblogs must have links to other websites, ..."
Question could be how to call sites that are not blogs ?
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Magnolia
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 12:21:23 GMT |
Question could be how to call sites that are not blogs ?
Websites?
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 14:29:55 GMT |
My quotes show that they all use the term websites. I'm just too lazy to type those extra three characters. For me a site can be a lot of very different things, Web sites being just one type of them.
But I asked the question IRW and it was immediately pointed out that my idea was a bad one: I could form a category with similar formats like blogs (example: wiki, moblogs, discussion groups, forum ...) . Then to see what other important clusters can be formed. But to coin a word for "all the rest" is very questionable.
More to come, I think...
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Jos
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 08/20/05 at 17:25:13 GMT |
This is interesting.
My note would be that the term "blogs" has involved from "weblogs". Weblogs were originally that, "web logs" of other sites on the web along with notes. But since then they can be anything kept in a journal or news format. They don't absolutely have to have links to other sites, although they usually do. Well most websites do anyways.
Norbert I like your clustering idea. There could be another subcat for that, with @links to the topical categories.
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writergrrrl
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/28/05 at 02:37:38 GMT |
Other directories are not really doing a great job of listing blogs. Some list all blogs under "computers/something/weblogs/something
which I find not useful.
As a searcher, I would not think to look under a Computer category for information on reauthorizing the Ryan White CARE act in California, a blog I just set up for my brother and which I hope to submit to several directories. Why would I look for AIDS services information under Computers?? But this is where many directories would place it.
Elsewhere, I've seen all blogs go under "society and culture", but that would not be appropriate for corporate blogs used to promote products and customer loyalty. I would not look under Society and Culture for a Hewlett Packard company blog.
I think blogs, forums, etc should not be placed by their type - but by their overall theme or topic. Some will be just personal stuff. Some would go under Society & culture, some would belong under Computers or Business. And so forth.
My 2c for the day - want change?? 
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Jos
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/28/05 at 02:41:00 GMT |
We are keeping all the weblogs in their own Weblogs category right now, for different reasons, one being that a lot of them tend to be fly by night. But the plan is/was to @link them from every topic category that has a corresponding Weblog category. Weblogs is one of the few things that we will make a subcat for the topic even if there is only one site to put there, just for the purpose of the @link.
Personally I'd like to see it as a top level category, but we've not gotten around to moving as of yet.
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/28/05 at 02:42:27 GMT |
I agree with writergrrrl on this point.
Though some blogs would be hard to place, there would still be some type of personal weblogs category for those. Which I think is pretty much what wg said.
I don't have to be an editor to state my agreement or disagreement on this point, do I?
*update*
I see, Jos, that I'm a minute or two behind you. If you do those link thingies, then it sounds like a very similar situation.
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/28/05 at 02:55:11 GMT |
Yes it's just about the same, whether the subcategory is actually located in the topic or as an @link under the topic. They appear the same.
Only difference is that one person would be reviewing all the weblogs on all topics. That could be improved upon with a change IMO.
I'd like to see all the various areas of the same topic be accessible for editing by the person with the interest in the topic. It's been discussed a little, but only in the preliminary stages.
So a person interested in cooking, for example, would have the home/.../cooking , online shopping/... maybe cookbooks or whatever/ weblogs/cooking, and so on like that.
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/31/05 at 03:19:12 GMT |
Only difference is that one person would be reviewing all the weblogs on all topics. That could be improved upon with a change IMO.
I understand the use of sym links so blogs (and forums etc) can be also listed by topic. Seems to me it would be better to reverse that - post blogs by topic, then sym link them all to the main blog topic
That way, you get what jos just described - editors interested in 1 topic (eg. cooking) would also have appropriate cooking blogs in their topic, not posted somewhere they wouldn't think to look ...
hey, let's just turn everything upside down!!
Seriously, I don't think other directories are doing a very good job of managing blog listings so far - let's lead the way.
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CrystalZ
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Re: Blogs
Posted on 10/31/05 at 04:23:38 GMT |
Sidenote on this: have you seen the quality of most the blogs listed here? They definately leave a lot to the imagination. If they were a better quality then Jos probably wouldn't hesitate to do it that way. Most the blogs listed are just plain crap.
Another thing is if we have a Blogs cat at every single level in every single cat then we run into a HUGE nightmare for the @links in Internet. For example how would we put @links in Internet if there was a "Blogs" in: Recreation, Recreation/Games, and in Recreation/Games/Computer and Internet/? That would mean there would need to be a bunch of empty cats in Internet just for one lonely @link. The blogs will either need to be located at the top-level of the main cats and THEN broken down or they should just be mainstreamed and then forget about @linking into a main "Blogs" cat.
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